Well, I knew that it happens, and I figured that it would happen to me: and so it has. I feel that I have been scammed...or at very best: lied to. As I have mentioned in the past, I have been looking at these Paid To Click (PPC); Paid To View (PPV) and Paid To Read Sites (PPR) for the last couple of months now. And I have always been wary about companies that might promised the world; and yet give you nothing in return.
Well, I am not sure that this is "exactly" what has happened: but I still feel somewhat jaded about my experience with a particular site. That site: ClikzVault.com. But before I bash the site, and the "company" behind it: let me give you a little of my history with them first. Well, I had signed up with the site sometime last month (October). I am not sure exactly when I signed up; because I was not keeping those records at that time (I am now, though). Everything seemed to be going okay. I would try to get on the site when I could, but usually several times a week.
I hadn't been on the site for very long, and I had earned a whopping $0.43 for 43 "clicks". That is not bad: as it is one cent per click; and there are sites that pay way less than that (but I digress). So according to my records, the last time that I had updated my records (the last time I had clicked on any of their links) was October 17, 2007 (my Bro's B-Day). When I had come back to use their system four days later on the 21st, I could not gain access to the site. Every time I tried to log in, the system just brough me back to the same log in screen.
Thankfully, I was able to navigate to the main page, where I found a link to their forums. So I started a thread under their complaint section, and this is how it went:
DonGatto63
New Clicker
Posted Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:55am
I have tried several times (about 5) to log into my ClickzVault account using my correct UID & Password; but each attempt leads me back to the log in screen. I did not receive any message saying that I was locked out of the account either.
Can you please let me know why it is doing this? I have not had problems with this before.
Thanks,
John
________________John A. Shachter
President & CEO
Black Cat Enterprises
Twysted
Site Admin
Posted Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:00am
doest it bring up a suspended message?
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ClickzVault Owner
DonGatto63
New Clicker
Posted Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:04am
There was not a suspended message that I could see. The page just returned to the login screen. I tried it again today (at about 9pm CST), and was still getting the same thing.
________________
John A. Shachter
President & CEO
Black Cat Enterprises
Twysted
Site Admin
Posted Sun Oct 26, 2007 5:37am
shows that your account was deleted
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ClickzVault Owner
DonGatto63
New Clicker
Posted Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:22pm
Well, I never deleted my account. My record keeping shows 43 clicks/$0.43. Please reenstate my account.
Thanks________________
John A. Shachter
President & CEO
Black Cat Enterprises
Twysted
Site Admin
Posted Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:42pm
lol it's not that simple, accounts are delt when I find multiple accounts on one ip. thats the only way. you cheated, therefore you lost your account
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ClickzVault Owner
DonGatto63
New Clicker
Posted Sun Oct 31, 2007 5:37pm
YOU ARE WRONG!! I never cheat...and I don't need to. There are plenty of sites to keep me busy in the 24 hours a day that I have been given. You had better check your facts before accusing someone of cheating. I have never signed up for more than one account with this site. And as soon as I had a problem with this site, I notified you folks. Your system probably had a hick-up or something.
I ask that you reinstate me because I did nothing wrong. If not, I will just tell the world. I can surely understand the postion on cheating...as I have my own site that I have to contend with. But you have to understand that sometimes things are not as they seem...and sometimes even the best systems mess up.
Please look into this further, and let me know via e-mail of your findings.
________________
John A. Shachter
President & CEO
Black Cat Enterprise
That was the last communiction between the Admin of the site and myself. I checked back yesterday (11/1), but there had not been any reply. And as of this morning, the site is no longer available. When I tried to go to the site (by link and by manually entering the addy); I was forwarded to a different page (http://epremiumhosting.com/suspended.page/) saying the following:
Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible.
So that is where it all stands. I was blamed for something that I didn't do, and when I threatened to "tell the world": now I cannot even access the site. Now perhaps I am wrong, and maybe I am taking this too far...but what else can I believe when after almost two weeks: I have been left out in the cold...without getting resolution to this whole situation.
http://www.clickzvault.com/register.php?XID=1
5 comments:
how about you get a life, no one cares about your unfortunant 2 weeks........oh bo ho ho, i wasted my life for two weeks. in reality your wasting my oxygen so quit breathing!
how about instead of being a drama queen about how you lost out on something you instead learn that this world is not for your taking, nor will this world care how you live or die...BTW BITCH!!! ClickzVault.com works fine for me.
Hmmmmm....sounds like someone is just a little nasty person. As Forrest Gump said..."stupid is as stupid does". And your intellegence is shown in your rant/flame. I have allowed your reply to the post here for a couple of reasons.
1) Your intellegence in this matter is obvious...and anyone with 1/2 the smarts of a flea should know better.
2) You obviously have no compassion for anyone in your misserable life. You need to get some serious help for your hateful ways. Get Jesus my friend!!
3) I believe that no matter what my personal views are: everyone has the right to express their own opinion: no matter how wrong or ignorant they are; or how much I may personally disagree with their point of view.
4) As this is a part of the greater community...I cannot change peoples attitudes. I can however, show how my beliefs and attitudes differ or ar alike to others. And thankfully in this case, I completely differ.
When I created this post, I was expressing my own opinion. As there are many scams online, I felt (at the time) that I had been scammed. I work my business honestly, and with integrety. I don't ever cheat...at least not on purpose. There have been a couple of times where I had mistakenly signed up for an account twice (such as on a particular forum I was on): but this was due to my own stupidity...and the fact that I just plainly forgot. Oh, and I have been able to resolve the issue with the Admin, and I am happily clicking again with ClickzVault. Keeping a cool head, and a professional attitude is what I attribute to the final positive outcome.
I guess the fact that Stryker is such a hostile person...I should probably just report him or her to the proper authorities. Stryker says that I am waisting his/her oxygen? Well, why the heck did he come to OUR site in the first place? And calling me a "Bitch", what is that about?
Now I might not agree with Stryker's opinions here...but I agree that Stryker has the God given right to express him/herself...and I will defend to the death that right. If I didn't, then we would be the same as some of these other countries...where people are not allowed to speak their mind. I believe that God has blessed our country...despite our frailties...to be the mold of what human rights should be.
Successfully Yours,
John A. Shachter
President & CEO
Black Cat Enterprises
since you have resolved your issue with my ever growing website. can you please remove the bit that says my site is a scam? as i know alot of ppl will not read fully through.
As for Stryker i apologise. I was searching the net for sites that have my site listed as a scam and cound not resist myself. and yes my other alias is Stryker, but i am sure you have already noticed that.
Thankz and God Bless!
Hi Twysted:
I thank you for continued reading of my blog, and I appreciate your position...with both names. As I chose to allow your Stryker post to be displayed, so will I also keep the part of your site being a scam intact.
However, what I will do is two fold. The first is this comment that I am making now. Your site IS NOT a scam. Perhaps I was a bit premature in my evaluation of your site: but with so many scammers out there, it is not easy to determin. If it walks like a duck...
So I appologize for any harm that my comment may have caused you. Please accept my apology with my sincerest regrets. The second thing that I will do, is I will create a new blog entry all together with updated information concerning the events that have transpired since my original post...and I will refer back to it as well.
I would, if I may, like to make a suggestion. I know the struggles you must face in your day to day operation of your site(s). The pressure must be overwelming sometimes. And of course, there are some people that you have to deal with, that are...well just plain ignorant. When you deal with these people (via e-mails or postings on your forum), perhaps you try and practice a little more patients and professionalism. I have noticed several places on your forum where you were just plain rude, and unprofessional.
I run into these situations myself, so I know and understand your frustrations. You sound to be a very intellegent person, and it can be frustrating dealing with people who are not at the same level as yourself (I have this happen all the time..even with my wife). So what has worked for me, is I delay my initial urge to flame the person, until such a time that I can look at the situation more logically and empathetically (putting myself in my customer's/member's shoes).
By being proactive, instead of reactive: I have saved many a wary member...and have developed some great relationships as a result; though that may not be your objective. I have had to understand that not everyone that I deal with online is at the same level as myself. And equally important, I had to realize that not everyone online that visits my sites are from an English speaking country. But the fact that they are reaching out for my help, shows that they have interest, and they are asking for my understanding and assistance in what ever their issue is.
Ok...well this comment has gone on longer than I had expected: but I felt I should get this off my chest. I hold no malice towards you, your site or your activities. I hope that you understand that I only wish to help you as a fellow web-peneur.
God Bless You And Your Business,
Successfully Yours,
John A. Shachter
President & CEO
Black Cat Enterprises
I understand what you mean about my sudden outbursts as well as i do understand about your disabled situation, as i myself am disabled, my anger comes from repitive asking of questions that are found on my main site, because of of ppl refuse to read announcements so, instead i am bombarded with emails and what not of the same thing being asked over and over, and answering them all is enough to drive you psychotic (See Statement Below). The reason this happens is due to my own disability, i am afraid i was one of the un-luckies to have to struggle with Paranoia Schizophrenia and Bi Poloar disorder. when i snap and well it means i have past the "beyond reality" checkpoint and the "no turning back" checkpoint and my Schizo takes over. To everyone else reading this if your a member of my site and i flame or curse you out or snap at you please don't take it personally. it's not meant to be intentional, and alot of the time i can't stop it from happeneing though i do try.
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